At this point I think a lot of PUA stuff is kinda weird…
Now many of you may not personally know me, but those of you who do know I have completely pushed the envelope on this one.
For instance most PUAs say they are masters of Strippers, or had Multiple Long Term Relationships and so on…the reality is they suck at those things.
So what the hell would prove a guy is legit?
Would it be the result of screwing a bunch of chicks or having a good life?
I really want to know what you think.
You can email me, but better yet leave a comment.
I think if it was PURE pickup, it would prob be cold approach “Infield insider” style. SNLs only.
well… despite mystery..i have never seen a pua with a REALLY hot and cool girl (bar refaeli would be my taste here) while that should be the case!!! i know it comes off lame to show pictures of urself with girl u fucked (pictures of you hugging partygirls really dont count here)..but its way better than a bunch of lameass reviews…proof that u get HOT girls..
Take a system that encourages smart people to learn how to manipulate social systems and you have identified people that are more likely then the normal populace to suffer from some form of sociopathic behavior. The amount of over the top slimy sales type behavior you see in this industry is just one indicator.
Oh Dude, thanks for this easy question. 😉
I don´t think anyone can give you a straight answer on this question because there is no easy way for any of us to find out.
A guy can tell me he fucks a lot of strippers and a guy can tell me he has a good life, but what reasons should I have to believe him?
Because he has a nice looking page telling me that he has all of this?
So calles Gurus grab my attention when I see they think outside the box of these construct that gets presented to us called “reality”.
If I see someone really deconstruct reality and all these beliefs he thinks he has to believe and has to represent (the last part is crucial) I think to myself that this guy “could be” legit.
cheers,
MunichHawk
I think the biggest challenge is successfully going into a set of 3+ HB9 girls in a club. A mixed set is easier because you can use the men as a cushion for value. There is this show on youtube called Keys to the VIP and its a work of art watching PUA’s do it 🙂 If you can do that and do it well than you can do anything. I love the work that you do and information you give us btw its very helpful and I follow you on twitter as well.
Hey Steve,
I don’t think anything could prove to the public that the guy who’s teaching actually gets results other than infield footage, but even so, he could have edited the only few sets that actually went OK.
I think the only thing that matters is : do his students get good results and are happy about it, getting long lasting changes and a better life? Honestly, I wouldn’t care about anything else. And I couldn’t care less if X or Y screwed 10000 chicks.
As to screwing a bunch of chicks or having a good life like you asked, I think screwing lots of different chicks is overrated. There’s a problem in the community with this… Also, there’s a lot of guys out there in the community who just don’t love women. To them, it’s just a game and that’s a shame…
In pickup marketig, as in pickup itself, one of the least interesting and attractive things a PUA can do is bash other PUAs. It looks insecure.
That said, infield footage is worth 10x anything else I’ve ever seen.
In all likelyhood, approaching either 2 or 4 ultra-hot girls around lunchtime and pulling one of them back to some place for a fast same day lay.
And then sleeping with her friend that night.
The Biggest PUA?
We should first start by defining what a PUA ‘s skills are expected to get him. Women and Sex are easy answers. But i’m talking about something else.
If he is REALLY GOOD, his skills should get him all kinds of women (from college girls to strippers, doctors, lawyers, models and even moviestars), in short and long time-frames, SNLs, SDLs.
His challenge would be to get all of those kinds of women from any venue. Asking 10 out of 10 from 10 different venues would be asking the impossible. But if one says that his system is fool proof and works each and every time… then he should prove it.
Get 2nd day lays, SDLs or SNLs with the 10 out of 10 from 10 that i mentioned in 1 year, and you could call yourself the absolute Biggest PUA EVER! – I don’t care what anyone says (and if you make it… neither will you)
hey man, really loving all your videos and your views on masculine definition. Have you read any david deida?
Cheers for all the value
There has to be actual proof that he can get women on a consistent basis, and cute girls at that. So far, it’s all in blind faith that the guy gets laid, or in bad taste to even ask him point blank.
And can he can get students results?
The PUA methods and teachings are a great start. Simply put, it’s better than anything I was using. Sometimes however, I think I overwhelm myself with the material and logistics. You definitely seemed very approachable and forthright about your teachings. I came to find you through Mehow’s 10SSA and to be totally honest, I wasn’t sure about your tactics at first but after watching your portion of the superconference, I was very impressed. You care a lot about what you do and that really hit home with me. I’ve known about the community for a couple of years and yet even after attending a Love Systems bootcamp, still stand in my own way when I go out. I start very simple such as: tonight I’m just going to open and I don’t give a shit about the outcome. When I’m in field, I’m totally locked up. Even after reading Psycho-Cybernetics, and The Power of Now, I get all too focused on what to say instead of how I’m conveying it. It’s like quick sand. One bad thing, then another, and another, and so on. Any advice is appreciated. Even if it’s: “Jarrod, get off your lazy ass and grow a pair” type shit. I’m sure you’re a very busy person, so reply at your convenience. Thanks so much for your help and inspiration.
-Jarrod